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I'm testing on IE 7 and it doesn't style the page. I noticed in the jquery mobile source code there are comments all over the place regarding IE 6/7 support.
Is IE 6/7 supported by jquery mobile?
My customers I'm developing for would like a mobile version, but also those who are on a desktop that have a slow connection would like to use the mobile version in hopes it would be faster.
Is IE 6/7 supported by jquery mobile?
My customers I'm developing for would like a mobile version, but also those who are on a desktop that have a slow connection would like to use the mobile version in hopes it would be faster.
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Re: IE support?
1 year ago
currently we are working on getting a Phone 7 device from Microsoft which is the same rendering engine as IE 7. It's coming.
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Re: IE support?
1 year ago
It appears this topic was last touched 2 months ago-- any news on IE support since? Currently JQuery Mobile is horrible looking in desktop IE7/8 and WP7. It appears to be application of styles/CSS moreso than anything else-- buttons are links instead of visual buttons, font is default(times new roman?), etc.
Most of our customers will be using iPhone or Android OS phones, but some may still check out our 'mobile interface' for demo purposes through their desktop browser-- and that's still IE for many of our customers... It would be nice if things could degrade a little nicer, at least...
Possibly this will be in Alpha 3(or beta)?
Thanks.
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Derek
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Re: IE support?
1 year ago
I think I read on twitter (or on this forum) about two weeks ago, that Microsoft hasen't provided yet that Phone 7 device, and therefore the developers haven't yet finetuned JQuery Mobile for IE7 / WP7. Styling for that browser is disabled. You can enable it, there is a post somewhere showing how to do that, but it probably won't look great.
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Re: IE support?
1 year ago
Thanks for the reply. I dug into the code a bit, and it appears everything is pretty much disabled if the browser isn't "gradeA"... Short-circuiting that and saying IE8 is grade A results in Javascript errors on some basic pages in my app-- I didn't dig too much further than that...
So, it appears until IE support is addressed, we'll have to settle for the ugly un-styled page instead...
I understand it's best to get a WP7 phone itself, however many of these issues can be fixed by simply using desktop IE8...so lack of a phone isn't a total show-stopper in adding some limited support..
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Derek
Re: IE support?
1 year ago
....<bump>....
see also this thread and scott jehl's "turn IE on , use at your own risk" tip.
Personally, I would vote for supporting desktop IE8 before supporting WinMo7 because it will make jQM much more interesting as a unified app framework (mobileX, tabletX, desktop)
To an app developer like me (or to my customers), not supporting desktop IE is much more painful than not supporting WinMo7. It means having to write another version of an app !
The market share of WinMo7 is insignificant at this point, and MS may anyway switch to a IE9 based rendering engine on mobile later this year.
I am just saying a reshuffling of dev energy towards desktop IE8 (9 probably is already almost there) and THEN followed by WinMo7 would do more for jQM momentum than the other way round.
What do others think ?
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Re: IE support?
1 year ago
IE8 does not support HTML5 so missing the odd widget or three.
I rather thought jQM was intended as a mobile framework - not desktop - so Phone7 makes more sense...
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Re: IE support?
1 year ago
I personally care far more about better IE8 desktop downgrading than WinMo7 support, as well. Considering IE8 doesn't support full HTML5, we surely can't expect full support, but something a little prettier and still functional would be nice... The biggest problem for me with IE8 and JQM is the lack of any styling whatsoever. I've tried enabling it, and I get Javascript errors in the framework that I didn't attempt to debug too much.
Still no WP7 from MS to the dev team? How about using the emulator in the WP7 SDK?
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Derek
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Re: IE support?
1 year ago
I would not spend 1 minute supporting IE7 or FF etc on desktops before a 1.0 release. JQM targets mobile devices not desktops. Critical that mobile devices work first. Acceptable rendering and support on desktops is a bonus.
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Re: IE support?
1 year ago
All fair comments. I fully realize jQuery MOBILE has a focus on mobile devices :)
However, if you are tasked to write an app that runs on the desktop and on mobiles you can:
1. write two apps using two different frameworks, with different css, classes etc. Thats twice the amount of work.
or
2. use a single framework with minor adaptations for different form factors (for example tablets allow lists and drill-downs to be visible simultaneously etc.)
The early JQM design sketches (well worth a look for their inspiring awesomeness) - lead me to believe the jQM team is aiming for just such cross browser, cross form factor (phone/tablet/desktop) capabilities in the future.
So now the question becomes, when does JQM actually become a deployable tool for such a desk+phone scenario ? My argument for giving IE8 compatibility (and I realize that is no trivial task) precedence over WinMo7 compatibility is that it would make the then existing jQM much more widely deployable. And not yet doing WinMo7 will hardly be noticed given the small installed base of that OS so far.
Also, wouldn't the task of supporting WinMo7 which has a truly ancient IE7 & IE8 codebase be HARDER than beginning with desktop IE8 ?? And on top of that, there is a rumor that MS realizes its WinMo7 browser is behind the curve and they may introduce a rev "Mango" based on the IE9 codebase later this year in which case the work to do WinMo7 first rel would go up in smoke.
Or perhaps my whole argument makes no sense since supporting the WinMo7 browser with its IE7/8 codebase is the bigger and harder task anyway and once that works, Desktop IE8 will automatically work also (I don't know) ?
Anyway, I am not sure its helpful or realistic ("cant make a baby in 1 month" etc.) but I am willing to vote with money not just words and put up a $2,000 incentive for JQM IE8 compatibility. I am a coder not a css/browser compatibility guru so I won't be much use hands-on but very willing to help test regularly.
jQM is still alpha and there is obviously a lot of work to be done, but I think it really has fantastic potential for single source web-application development (plus looking really good the more it converges on the designs and capabilities mentioned above)
GO JQM !
Re: IE support?
1 month ago
I agree with much of the above.
The landing page of jQuery mobile clearly makes the bold assertion that it is compatible with "all" popular desktop devices. It is not unreasonable to assume that a browser - IE8 - that shows in some statistical testing as having 20%+ of the desktop browser market share will work with jQuery mobile.
My own user base stats show a much higher proportion of IE8 users than this so for me it is not a deployable cross platform solution.
In fact even the boiler plate demo straight off the jQuery mobile site does not render on some Android devices without 50% of the site being cut off.
If I need to start building in queries for multiple devices / browsers etc then for me this conflicts with what jQuery claims to be.
The landing page of jQuery mobile clearly makes the bold assertion that it is compatible with "all" popular desktop devices. It is not unreasonable to assume that a browser - IE8 - that shows in some statistical testing as having 20%+ of the desktop browser market share will work with jQuery mobile.
My own user base stats show a much higher proportion of IE8 users than this so for me it is not a deployable cross platform solution.
In fact even the boiler plate demo straight off the jQuery mobile site does not render on some Android devices without 50% of the site being cut off.
If I need to start building in queries for multiple devices / browsers etc then for me this conflicts with what jQuery claims to be.
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Re: IE support?
3 months ago
Isn't there a browser detection disable feature for jqm? It would be nice to just disable feature based on client browser
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