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Awesome, thanks John. So UI 1.7 should be around the corner as well?
Regards,
Schalk
John Resig

> Awesome, thanks John. So UI 1.7 should be around the corner as well?
Let's hope so! You'll have to ask the UI team :-) I think they're
getting real close, though.
--John

Thanks! So far it seems to be working without issues on my projects,
including those with UI 1.6rc6. :)

Good work.
Visual Studio version comming soon?
gr J

Yep, the team at Microsoft is working on it.
--John

Good Stuff Guys, but I wonder when you'll decide to put the word END in front of "Supports IE6" ... any chance libraries will start to do it and accordingly remove dust and rubbish from their core?
An announcement like: jQuery 1.4 will not support IE6 ... is it too much to ask, isn't it?
:-)

I partially agree but consider that:
<ol><li>developers, all of them, would like to see IE6 death</li><li>if jQuery will loose IE6 compatibility, developers can only be stuck (they won't) or comunicate to the company that technologies are moving and IE6 support effort is not possible anymore (bloody hell system administrators, do they want to be stuck in the 2000 forever?)</li>
<li>jQuery code could only benefits from this choice (I can't believe I read IE6 charts in the 1.3.2 announcment, are you guys truly "waisting time" to improve a death browser?)</li><li>if this NO IE6 camapaign wont start from us, developers, we'll be stuck "forever" with IE6 cause they do not need to upgrade</li>
</ol>Finally, technology HAS to be updated ... Windows 98 is not suppoerted anymore, they HAD to change PC ... here we are talking about a free download to follow the Web instead of kill it with all those missed features and unpaid effort to try to support it.
I would expect decreased performances on purpose for IE6, rather than speed improvements to make this browser still usable.
Btw, this is just my point of view, obviously :-)

Heh, that's not happening, no.
If we drop support for IE6 we might as well drop support for IE7 - we
have more bugs that we have to work around in IE7 than we do in IE6 -
and considering that there were no significant JavaScript/DOM bugs
fixed in IE7 - it's virtually identical to IE6, as far as we're
concerned.
Unlike IE 5.5, which has some critical errors in its construction, we
plan on supporting IE 6 well into the foreseeable future.
--John

Ok, I tried :D

Andrea,
dropping support for IE6 will not help reduce the code in any way. The
same part of code is still needed in both IE7 and IE8.
What are the advantages in only have support for IE7 and IE8 ?
Diego

John,
some great updates you are releasing, everything has been improved,
new functionalities and increased speed for the core methods.
Events management covers most of what I would expect. The bits about
"return false" and ".stopPropagation()" on ".live()" will be very
useful.
My compliments to the team.
Diego

I have a strange rendering bug occuring since upgrading to 1.3.2 from
1.3.1 and even one of the nighty release (end of january)
i have a (very complex) menu, marked up with unordered lists.
Interaction with it toggles classes so that only the relevant ones are shown.
at some point i test how many are visible using
$('#stratas ul:visible').length;
with 1.3.1 it returned the correct number, but with 1.3.2 it does not
anymore. It seems related to the css code.
i've built a test suite here : http://jsbin.com/ovogu
Let me know if i should file a bug or if it's something i am doing wrong.
Thanks a lot
Alexandre

So looking at your page - your ULs are, technically, not visible.
Their width and height are 0 (all of its contents escape outside). If
you examine the elements in Firebug you see something similar: The ULs
are dimmed (noting that they aren't visible).
What are you trying to create?
--John

this (work in progress) : http://m2.lab-au.com/
navigate sequence: theory > writing > articles
thank you for your time John!
Alexandre

Thanks to your explanation, I found a way to fix it:
i simply added this to my stylesheet:
html.js #stratas ul{
/* this is necessary, otherwise jquery :visible does not work */
width:100%;
}
btw, do you know of a good way to make sure that an UL automatically
adjust its dimensions to its content's dimensions ? (in other words,
not have its content escape outside?)
thanks
alexandre

> Thanks to your explanation, I found a way to fix it:

thank you for the extra info ! The speed improvement in 1.3.2 is
amazing: with 1.3.1 i used to see that whole menu appear briefly on
page load; with 1.3.2, that's history. Great!

var Jquery = 1.3.2
$(this).amazing({
// thanks John Resig
});
Cheers
Mario
macm

Diego,
it's just about pushing "from inside" to remove that obsolete browser from the web.
John already explained the fact that IE6 tricks are almost the same (Sizzle as well?)
Anyway, it was just a try :-)

Wasn't the memory leak issue IE<=6 only? I thought that was fixed in 7.
That is a fairly big portion of compatibility code, half the library
uses less efficient techniques to avoid memory leaks.
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Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
> Diego,
> it's just about pushing "from inside" to remove that obsolete browser from
> the web.
> John already explained the fact that IE6 tricks are almost the same (Sizzle
> as well?)
>
> Anyway, it was just a try :-)
>
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Diego Perini <diego.perini@gmail.com>

fwiw, I dont think it is time to drop ie6 support yet. Some
organizations require ie6 support, which would mean that they cannot
adopt jquery. Give it another year.

On Feb 21, 8:05 am, John Resig <jere...@gmail.com>

Hi Hoai,
jquery-en is likely a better place for this sort of question:
http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-en
But in response to your question, does the following from jQuery's
documentation not work for you?
$("#feeds").load("feeds.html");
-- dz