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7 years ago
Is there a release date set for Version 1.5 according to the timeline here? --> http://jquerymobile.com/roadmap/
Is there a possibility that JQuery Mobile is simply dropped? You have bootstrap becoming more mobile and more responsive and I'm wondering if the popularity jumps there and leaves JQuery Mobile. JQM is much easier way of looking at things for me as Bootstrap throws everything in but the kitchen sink, and that's an option.
Anybody have input or knowledge?
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Re: JQuery Mobile Release Time line
7 years ago
It will be done when it is done, as with any software development
in-progress. Nobody can predict the future.
Some developers like to make guesses, or set arbitrary deadlines
when whatever works at that moment is released to meet some
commitment, whether technically advisable or not.
Fortunately (IMO) the jQuery Mobile team doesn't seem to take
that kind of reactive approach. it will be baked when it is baked.
If you are in a position to do so, you can always toss some $$$ so
that they can hire additional full-time personnel, and volunteer to
help in whatever way you can!
You can follow along here:
and here:
I see regular activity.
Re: Re: JQuery Mobile Release Time line
7 years ago
Thanks. Unfortunately, I have no money to give. I'm hat in hand as well.
However, I'm just trying to make sure there is still an oven and
there is still baking going on. Keep shaking.
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Re: JQuery Mobile Release Time line
7 years ago
My advice, find another framework.
jQuery Mobile is "de facto" dead. Even if we see version
1.5 it will be far behind current competition. jQuery Mobile simply
can't compete with modern AngularJS based frameworks, be it for
desktop or hybrid mobile development.
Let me give you a better perspective. According to old
roadmap, version 1.7 was intended to be available by the end of 2014.
We're still using version 1.4.5. which was released almost 2 years ago.
In that time span, several currently best mobile frameworks were
built from scratch. For example Ionic, OnsenUI, Framework7, Famo.us.
In the end, you should read this article.
Re: Re: JQuery Mobile Release Time line
7 years ago
I wish that I could read Japanese
http://www.slideshare.net/yoshikawa_t/jquery-mobile-is-not-dead
jQuery Mobile is not dead!
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Re: JQuery Mobile Release Time line
7 years ago
I've noticed the low activity level on GitHub myself.
But I think a proper look at it would look at combined activity
of jQuery Mobile ,and jQuery UI, and Chassis since the goal is for
them to merge and Chassis is part of this as well. Of course, then,
you might also ask if jQuery UI itself has a future, as it has also
been at a low level of activity. I think you might want to add that
to a further blog post. You do touch on this aspect in your blog
post, but you do not show or comment on the activity.
So, I think it would be interesting also to see where (if
anywhere) jQuery UI is going and what it's future might be.
In my own work, I do not need or
want a client MVC. Admittedly, I work in an unusual environment,
as I use the Zebra Rhomobile Rhodes framework, which places a
Rails-like server with Ruby MVC and ERB templates inside a native
app. I have no need for an MVC in the client, and, anyway,
Javascript performance in this environment is poor (at least on
iOS) due to Apple restrictions in UIWebView. (Rhodes does not
yet use WKWebView). I use Javascript only for issues related to
presentation and user interaction.
In the past, jQuery Mobile has had the luxury of significant
contribution of both cash and personnel from Adobe and I think
Microsoft. In fact, one of the early pains on the forum here was that
Adobe shipped a half-baked alpha version "in the box" with
their products, leading developers to expect Adobe-level support and
thinking (despite disclaimers) that it was a finished production-ready
product. Indeed, we still get people wandering through here who
"open the box" and then attempt to use jQuery Mobile 1.0
alpha versions!
One would assume that the level of contribution from those big
corporate sponsors is less today, and that is something that us
outsiders need to keep a watch on.
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Re: JQuery Mobile Release Time line
7 years ago
Well that is why I was asking....
However, it seems to me that maybe the only reason it can't "compete" is because of the popularity of angularJS not because of functionality. AngularJS is the opposite mantra of "write less, do more" and more like "make it more complicated and new so you have better job security".
I think AngularJS itself could replace JQuery as well and that's the REAL rub. http://tech.zumba.com/2014/08/02/angularjs-forget-jquery/
The problem is when I began in this business before there was a Commodore 64, the rule of the day was KISS. Now the rule of the day is Separation of Concern even if its complicated and takes 10x more people. In fact, make it complicated so they can't fire you. Every day that passes it is taking us longer and longer and longer to create the same webpage, that literally took 15 mins to create once upon a time.
So it is a tough decision, I'm 100% sure I can do it faster
with JQuery/JQuery mobile but that is weighed against life of the
code and the fact that current push to stop using JQuery altogether
in favor of angularJS.
PS. I don't want to get
into the symantics of whether I should be comparing Jquery and
angularJs. It is WHAT it is. In "my opinion", the rush
to other mobile frameworks is more to do with angularJS than
anything else. If that is the case, then JQuery is also
"dead". AngularJS has a lite version of JQuery already in
it so there is no need to use JQuery once you are using AngularJS. In
fact, as the link shows above and there are many others, if you are
bought into the AngularJS MVC Client, then JQuery is the wrong way to
be manipulating your View anyway.
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Re: JQuery Mobile Release Time line
7 years ago
Mike, we are largely in agreement. ;) I think that platforms like
AngularJS are getting dragged into many projects were it really offers
no benefit, and only complicates things.
But I have no worries about jQuery going away, because it is
pervasive, and the great bulk of web sites are not the SPA (Single
Page Application) type of projects that AngularJS and similar
platforms are aimed at. Simple "classic" webpages continue
to need JS, DOM search/modification and Ajax, and jQuery is the
accepted and universal way to do that.
I'd imagine if you follow forums for those platforms, you'd
be pained to see some of the sort of thing that we (occasionally) see
here where somebody is using the platform because they spotted one
little feature that they really like, and even perhaps then they are
trying to glue it together with 3 other platforms... Unfortunately,
that will never go away, LOL.
I myself would be interested in seeing some discussion of what
other new UI platforms compete more directly with jQuery Mobile. That
is, that deal with UI only and don't get involved with data
binding, MVC, etc. and are also meant to work across a wide range of
browsers and devices. I would think/hope that any such platform(s)
would still be based on jQuery. One reason that would be my hope is
because I think that (abandoning jQuery) has been part of the undoing
of some competitors that have essentially gone nowhere . Interesting
that one saw the problem with that:
Zurb Foundation went back to jQuery as a base.
Re: Re: JQuery Mobile Release Time line
7 years ago
I don't think you will see any more UI-only frameworks. The principal of KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) has been replaced with colleges teaching architecture over everything and KISS FAST (Keep It Separated Stupid) (Forget About Simple Today)
To enforce MV*, I believe they will always have some kind of enforced programming framework with UI frameworks getting baked in with some kind of programming framework from the git go.
And this is my problem of whether I do a project with jQuery mobile
or just bite the bullet and go the route of the Ionic framework.
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Re: JQuery Mobile Release Time line
7 years ago
Actually, this discussion has me taking a look at Zurb Foundation.
It looks pretty Kiss-y to me, and seems to be gaining momentum.
I'd rejected it in the past, because it was based on Zepto, which
I judged was going nowhere. Now that it's (pretty minimal) JS is
based on jQuery...
It is mostly a CSS framework, and that CSS framework is built
from Sass, which I already use for writing my CSS.
And it ain't got no stinkin' Javascript MVC.
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Re: JQuery Mobile Release Time line
7 years ago
OTOH, just doing some "Zurb Foundation vs." searches I've
seen some suggestions to use Bourbon.
Which, ironically, I already use. With jQuery Mobile.
But Bourbon is nothing but a CSS framework. And really not even a
CSS framework, but a set of Mixins for Sass. Which I really like,
because your CSS is then always customized - there is no fluff in the
CSS to support stuff you don't actually use.
Hmmm... Refills is JS components for Bourbon. A bit like the jQuery
UI of Bourbon.
I'm gonna take a serious look at Zurb Foundation, as well as
the whole Bourbon/Neat/Bitters/Refills shebang. Thinking about what I
might be able to do with that while ditching JQM altogether.
This has gone off-topic, (sorry). I'd welcome some sort of
"alternatives to jQuery Mobile" discussion in the main
jQuery Mobile area! I think it's a legitimate topic there.
We can continue to hand-wring here about what the future of JQM is
or isn't. But I think it's also useful to have some discussion
about alternatives, and especially those that limit themselves to UI
framework only, without unnecessarily introducing MVC.
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Re: JQuery Mobile Release Time line
7 years ago
Hmmm, the forum is doing some strange things with the order of posts lately!
Several posts up:
http://www.slideshare.net/yoshikawa_t/jquery-mobile-is-not-dead
We may not read Japanese, but Google Translate does - sort-of.
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meeting Toru Yoshikawa (@ yoshikawa_t)
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