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15 years ago
Hey folks,
Time for another plugin -
http://digitalspaghetti.me.uk/index.php?q=jquery-babelfish
This is my jQuery Babelfish plugin. It provides a very easy way for
you to add translation services via Google Translate on your site.
The default setting is from English to French, but it can be
overridden to input and output any language that Google supports.
Using the plugin, you can pass in text from any element, including the
body.
You can see the demo on the page above to see how this can be achieved.
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
Tane,
That is a very good idea, Very!
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/21/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Tane Piper</b> <<a href="mailto:digitalspaghetti@googlemail.com">digitalspaghetti@googlemail.com</a>
> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hey folks,
Time for another plugin -
<a href="http://digitalspaghetti.me.uk/index.php?q=jquery-babelfish">
http://digitalspaghetti.me.uk/index.php?q=jquery-babelfish</a>
This is my jQuery Babelfish plugin. It provides a very easy way for
you to add translation services via Google Translate on your site.
The default setting is from English to French, but it can be
overridden to input and output any language that Google supports.
Using the plugin, you can pass in text from any element, including the
body.
You can see the demo on the page above to see how this can be achieved.
--
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That is a very good idea, Very!
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/21/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Tane Piper</b> <<a href="mailto:digitalspaghetti@googlemail.com">digitalspaghetti@googlemail.com</a>
> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hey folks,
Time for another plugin -
<a href="http://digitalspaghetti.me.uk/index.php?q=jquery-babelfish">
http://digitalspaghetti.me.uk/index.php?q=jquery-babelfish</a>
This is my jQuery Babelfish plugin. It provides a very easy way for
you to add translation services via Google Translate on your site.
The default setting is from English to French, but it can be
overridden to input and output any language that Google supports.
Using the plugin, you can pass in text from any element, including the
body.
You can see the demo on the page above to see how this can be achieved.
--
Tane Piper
<a href="http://digitalspaghetti.me.uk">http://digitalspaghetti.me.uk</a>
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
This isn't done as a plugin, but that's a similar idea:
(buttons automatic translation)
http://www.gmworkersblog.com/languages/english/union_says_avtovaz_fired_staff_the_moscow_times
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
Hey Xavier,
Thanks for pointing that out - I was looking to do something like that
originally, but couldn't get it to work with Google that way. I'll
have a look at the altavista service and see what i can do to maybe
make it more friendly.
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
Hi,
Already working on it and I have working demo, although it's a little
buggy. You can try it out here:
http://dev.digitalspaghetti.me.uk/babelfish/
I'm trying to get my head around Prototyping so I can easily provide
both functions to translate the contents of an element, and a whole
page via location.href. I'll let you know how I get on.
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
Check out <a href="http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/">http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/</a>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I have a site that's chock-full of jquery stuff: numerous js files using
jquery, bunch of plugins, etc. I have a need to use mootools for
something that must coexist with the jquery stuff. I know that jquery's
$ can be changed to something else, but rather than mod any of my
existing js files, I'd prefer to override moo's $ instead. However,
haven't been able to find a way to do it. I can't imagine there isn't a
way, but so far no luck.
Anyone in this lovely, lively, vigorous jquery group know a workaround?
(buttered up enough?)
Thanks,
Jack
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I have a site that's chock-full of jquery stuff: numerous js files using
jquery, bunch of plugins, etc. I have a need to use mootools for
something that must coexist with the jquery stuff. I know that jquery's
$ can be changed to something else, but rather than mod any of my
existing js files, I'd prefer to override moo's $ instead. However,
haven't been able to find a way to do it. I can't imagine there isn't a
way, but so far no luck.
Anyone in this lovely, lively, vigorous jquery group know a workaround?
(buttered up enough?)
Thanks,
Jack
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
Right, I know about the no-conflict mode. My issue is the opposite: I
don't want to touch any existing js files to use jquery in no-conflict
mode....and haven't had any luck via mootools pleas for a workaround at
the moo level. Hoping someone here has dealt with it. I just have a
little mootools thing I need to use so don't want to touch other stuff
that's already working.
Thx.
Jack
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:2215f22c0708221111t136d7a28rd96147439da2883e@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Check out <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/">http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/</a>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b
class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</a>>
wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I have a site that's chock-full of jquery stuff: numerous js files using
jquery, bunch of plugins, etc. I have a need to use mootools for
something that must coexist with the jquery stuff. I know that jquery's
$ can be changed to something else, but rather than mod any of my
existing js files, I'd prefer to override moo's $ instead. However,
haven't been able to find a way to do it. I can't imagine there isn't a
way, but so far no luck.
Anyone in this lovely, lively, vigorous jquery group know a workaround?
(buttered up enough?)
Thanks,
Jack
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<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
Right, I know about the no-conflict mode. My issue is the opposite: I
don't want to touch any existing js files to use jquery in no-conflict
mode....and haven't had any luck via mootools pleas for a workaround at
the moo level. Hoping someone here has dealt with it. I just have a
little mootools thing I need to use so don't want to touch other stuff
that's already working.
Thx.
Jack
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:2215f22c0708221111t136d7a28rd96147439da2883e@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Check out <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/">http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/</a>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b
class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</a>>
wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I have a site that's chock-full of jquery stuff: numerous js files using
jquery, bunch of plugins, etc. I have a need to use mootools for
something that must coexist with the jquery stuff. I know that jquery's
$ can be changed to something else, but rather than mod any of my
existing js files, I'd prefer to override moo's $ instead. However,
haven't been able to find a way to do it. I can't imagine there isn't a
way, but so far no luck.
Anyone in this lovely, lively, vigorous jquery group know a workaround?
(buttered up enough?)
Thanks,
Jack
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
Sorry Jack, never ran into the issue. Maybe replacing all the $ in mootools' core, probably not the best approach, but I could not find an answer.
Sorry.
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">
Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
Right, I know about the no-conflict mode. My issue is the opposite: I
don't want to touch any existing js files to use jquery in no-conflict
mode....and haven't had any luck via mootools pleas for a workaround at
the moo level. Hoping someone here has dealt with it. I just have a
little mootools thing I need to use so don't want to touch other stuff
that's already working.
Thx.
<span class="sg">
Jack</span><div><span class="e" id="q_1148ecfecdf688e2_2">
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Check out <a href="http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/
</a>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jack@ihwy.com</a>>
wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I have a site that's chock-full of jquery stuff: numerous js files using
jquery, bunch of plugins, etc. I have a need to use mootools for
something that must coexist with the jquery stuff. I know that jquery's
$ can be changed to something else, but rather than mod any of my
existing js files, I'd prefer to override moo's $ instead. However,
haven't been able to find a way to do it. I can't imagine there isn't a
way, but so far no luck.
Anyone in this lovely, lively, vigorous jquery group know a workaround?
(buttered up enough?)
Thanks,
Jack
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Sorry.
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">
Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
Right, I know about the no-conflict mode. My issue is the opposite: I
don't want to touch any existing js files to use jquery in no-conflict
mode....and haven't had any luck via mootools pleas for a workaround at
the moo level. Hoping someone here has dealt with it. I just have a
little mootools thing I need to use so don't want to touch other stuff
that's already working.
Thx.
<span class="sg">
Jack</span><div><span class="e" id="q_1148ecfecdf688e2_2">
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Check out <a href="http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/
</a>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jack@ihwy.com</a>>
wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I have a site that's chock-full of jquery stuff: numerous js files using
jquery, bunch of plugins, etc. I have a need to use mootools for
something that must coexist with the jquery stuff. I know that jquery's
$ can be changed to something else, but rather than mod any of my
existing js files, I'd prefer to override moo's $ instead. However,
haven't been able to find a way to do it. I can't imagine there isn't a
way, but so far no luck.
Anyone in this lovely, lively, vigorous jquery group know a workaround?
(buttered up enough?)
Thanks,
Jack
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
I was just looking at some of my plugins and realized that, if your plugins are wrapped like below, doing the noflict should not be a headache.
<code>(function($){
// original content
})(jQuery);</code>
Even if you have to wrap your current code (custom code you written) in that, you should still be ok.
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Benjamin Sterling</b> <<a href="mailto:benjamin.sterling@kenzomedia.com">
benjamin.sterling@kenzomedia.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Sorry Jack, never ran into the issue. Maybe replacing all the $ in mootools' core, probably not the best approach, but I could not find an answer.
Sorry.<div><span class="e" id="q_1148edac90324cbc_1">
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">
Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
Right, I know about the no-conflict mode. My issue is the opposite: I
don't want to touch any existing js files to use jquery in no-conflict
mode....and haven't had any luck via mootools pleas for a workaround at
the moo level. Hoping someone here has dealt with it. I just have a
little mootools thing I need to use so don't want to touch other stuff
that's already working.
Thx.
<span>
Jack</span><div><span>
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Check out <a href="http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/
</a>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jack@ihwy.com</a>>
wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I have a site that's chock-full of jquery stuff: numerous js files using
jquery, bunch of plugins, etc. I have a need to use mootools for
something that must coexist with the jquery stuff. I know that jquery's
$ can be changed to something else, but rather than mod any of my
existing js files, I'd prefer to override moo's $ instead. However,
haven't been able to find a way to do it. I can't imagine there isn't a
way, but so far no luck.
Anyone in this lovely, lively, vigorous jquery group know a workaround?
(buttered up enough?)
Thanks,
Jack
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<code>(function($){
// original content
})(jQuery);</code>
Even if you have to wrap your current code (custom code you written) in that, you should still be ok.
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Benjamin Sterling</b> <<a href="mailto:benjamin.sterling@kenzomedia.com">
benjamin.sterling@kenzomedia.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Sorry Jack, never ran into the issue. Maybe replacing all the $ in mootools' core, probably not the best approach, but I could not find an answer.
Sorry.<div><span class="e" id="q_1148edac90324cbc_1">
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">
Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
Right, I know about the no-conflict mode. My issue is the opposite: I
don't want to touch any existing js files to use jquery in no-conflict
mode....and haven't had any luck via mootools pleas for a workaround at
the moo level. Hoping someone here has dealt with it. I just have a
little mootools thing I need to use so don't want to touch other stuff
that's already working.
Thx.
<span>
Jack</span><div><span>
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Check out <a href="http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/
</a>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jack@ihwy.com</a>>
wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I have a site that's chock-full of jquery stuff: numerous js files using
jquery, bunch of plugins, etc. I have a need to use mootools for
something that must coexist with the jquery stuff. I know that jquery's
$ can be changed to something else, but rather than mod any of my
existing js files, I'd prefer to override moo's $ instead. However,
haven't been able to find a way to do it. I can't imagine there isn't a
way, but so far no luck.
Anyone in this lovely, lively, vigorous jquery group know a workaround?
(buttered up enough?)
Thanks,
Jack
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
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Right, I just don't want to touch any of the existing/relevant
files....only wrap moo in something that won't conflict. Thanks for
poking into it for me, though, much appreciated. Seems like a
no-brainer to have in a library (and a reason to use jq over moo in
general if it t'aint possible ;-)
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:2215f22c0708221144y2d3c028er841359e2c10649bb@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">I was just looking at some of my plugins and realized
that, if your plugins are wrapped like below, doing the noflict should
not be a headache.
<code>(function($){
// original content
})(jQuery);</code>
Even if you have to wrap your current code (custom code you written) in
that, you should still be ok.
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b
class="gmail_sendername">Benjamin Sterling</b> <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:benjamin.sterling@kenzomedia.com">
benjamin.sterling@kenzomedia.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Sorry
Jack, never ran into the issue. Maybe replacing all the $ in mootools'
core, probably not the best approach, but I could not find an answer.
Sorry.
<div><span class="e" id="q_1148edac90324cbc_1">
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b
class="gmail_sendername">
Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com" target="_blank"
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jack@ihwy.com</a>>
wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Right, I know about the
no-conflict mode. My issue is the opposite: I
don't want to touch any existing js files to use jquery in no-conflict
mode....and haven't had any luck via mootools pleas for a workaround at
the moo level. Hoping someone here has dealt with it. I just have a
little mootools thing I need to use so don't want to touch other stuff
that's already working.
Thx.
<span>Jack</span>
<div><span>
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Check out <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/"
target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/
</a>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b
class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com" target="_blank"
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jack@ihwy.com</a>>
wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I have a site that's chock-full of jquery stuff: numerous js files using
jquery, bunch of plugins, etc. I have a need to use mootools for
something that must coexist with the jquery stuff. I know that jquery's
$ can be changed to something else, but rather than mod any of my
existing js files, I'd prefer to override moo's $ instead. However,
haven't been able to find a way to do it. I can't imagine there isn't a
way, but so far no luck.
Anyone in this lovely, lively, vigorous jquery group know a workaround?
(buttered up enough?)
Thanks,
Jack
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Right, I just don't want to touch any of the existing/relevant
files....only wrap moo in something that won't conflict. Thanks for
poking into it for me, though, much appreciated. Seems like a
no-brainer to have in a library (and a reason to use jq over moo in
general if it t'aint possible ;-)
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:2215f22c0708221144y2d3c028er841359e2c10649bb@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">I was just looking at some of my plugins and realized
that, if your plugins are wrapped like below, doing the noflict should
not be a headache.
<code>(function($){
// original content
})(jQuery);</code>
Even if you have to wrap your current code (custom code you written) in
that, you should still be ok.
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b
class="gmail_sendername">Benjamin Sterling</b> <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:benjamin.sterling@kenzomedia.com">
benjamin.sterling@kenzomedia.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Sorry
Jack, never ran into the issue. Maybe replacing all the $ in mootools'
core, probably not the best approach, but I could not find an answer.
Sorry.
<div><span class="e" id="q_1148edac90324cbc_1">
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b
class="gmail_sendername">
Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com" target="_blank"
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jack@ihwy.com</a>>
wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Right, I know about the
no-conflict mode. My issue is the opposite: I
don't want to touch any existing js files to use jquery in no-conflict
mode....and haven't had any luck via mootools pleas for a workaround at
the moo level. Hoping someone here has dealt with it. I just have a
little mootools thing I need to use so don't want to touch other stuff
that's already working.
Thx.
<span>Jack</span>
<div><span>
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Check out <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/"
target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/
</a>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b
class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com" target="_blank"
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jack@ihwy.com</a>>
wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I have a site that's chock-full of jquery stuff: numerous js files using
jquery, bunch of plugins, etc. I have a need to use mootools for
something that must coexist with the jquery stuff. I know that jquery's
$ can be changed to something else, but rather than mod any of my
existing js files, I'd prefer to override moo's $ instead. However,
haven't been able to find a way to do it. I can't imagine there isn't a
way, but so far no luck.
Anyone in this lovely, lively, vigorous jquery group know a workaround?
(buttered up enough?)
Thanks,
Jack
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
<div>I don't think there is a way to make mootools play well with other libraries when using the infamous "$". jQuery is probably the only library that understands this concern and has implemented appropriate precautions in its code base.
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>That said, to look at ur needs from a higher level, i think i will first need to understand what is that u r doing with mootools that can't be done in jquery. If we are able to easily achieve the same using jQuery, then you wont have to use mootools at all in the first place...
</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>-GTG
</div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">Right, I just don't want to touch any of the existing/relevant files....only wrap moo in something that won't conflict. Thanks for poking into it for me, though, much appreciated. Seems like a no-brainer to have in a library (and a reason to use jq over moo in general if it t'aint possible ;-)
<div><span class="e" id="q_1148eed8b3c6e7c2_1">
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">I was just looking at some of my plugins and realized that, if your plugins are wrapped like below, doing the noflict should not be a headache.
<code>(function($){
// original content
})(jQuery);</code>
Even if you have to wrap your current code (custom code you written) in that, you should still be ok.
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Benjamin Sterling</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:benjamin.sterling@kenzomedia.com" target="_blank"> benjamin.sterling@kenzomedia.com
</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Sorry Jack, never ran into the issue. Maybe replacing all the $ in mootools' core, probably not the best approach, but I could not find an answer.
Sorry.
<div><span>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com" target="_blank">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:
</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">Right, I know about the no-conflict mode. My issue is the opposite: I don't want to touch any existing js files to use jquery in no-conflict mode....and haven't had any luck via mootools pleas for a workaround at the moo level. Hoping someone here has dealt with it. I just have a little mootools thing I need to use so don't want to touch other stuff that's already working.
Thx.
<span>Jack</span>
<div><span>
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Check out <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/" target="_blank">http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/
</a>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com" target="_blank">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:
</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
I have a site that's chock-full of jquery stuff: numerous js files using
jquery, bunch of plugins, etc. I have a need to use mootools for
something that must coexist with the jquery stuff. I know that jquery's
$ can be changed to something else, but rather than mod any of my
existing js files, I'd prefer to override moo's $ instead. However,
haven't been able to find a way to do it. I can't imagine there isn't a
way, but so far no luck.
Anyone in this lovely, lively, vigorous jquery group know a workaround?
(buttered up enough?)
Thanks,
Jack
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<div>That said, to look at ur needs from a higher level, i think i will first need to understand what is that u r doing with mootools that can't be done in jquery. If we are able to easily achieve the same using jQuery, then you wont have to use mootools at all in the first place...
</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>-GTG
</div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">Right, I just don't want to touch any of the existing/relevant files....only wrap moo in something that won't conflict. Thanks for poking into it for me, though, much appreciated. Seems like a no-brainer to have in a library (and a reason to use jq over moo in general if it t'aint possible ;-)
<div><span class="e" id="q_1148eed8b3c6e7c2_1">
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">I was just looking at some of my plugins and realized that, if your plugins are wrapped like below, doing the noflict should not be a headache.
<code>(function($){
// original content
})(jQuery);</code>
Even if you have to wrap your current code (custom code you written) in that, you should still be ok.
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Benjamin Sterling</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:benjamin.sterling@kenzomedia.com" target="_blank"> benjamin.sterling@kenzomedia.com
</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Sorry Jack, never ran into the issue. Maybe replacing all the $ in mootools' core, probably not the best approach, but I could not find an answer.
Sorry.
<div><span>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com" target="_blank">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:
</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">Right, I know about the no-conflict mode. My issue is the opposite: I don't want to touch any existing js files to use jquery in no-conflict mode....and haven't had any luck via mootools pleas for a workaround at the moo level. Hoping someone here has dealt with it. I just have a little mootools thing I need to use so don't want to touch other stuff that's already working.
Thx.
<span>Jack</span>
<div><span>
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Check out <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/" target="_blank">http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/
</a>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com" target="_blank">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:
</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
I have a site that's chock-full of jquery stuff: numerous js files using
jquery, bunch of plugins, etc. I have a need to use mootools for
something that must coexist with the jquery stuff. I know that jquery's
$ can be changed to something else, but rather than mod any of my
existing js files, I'd prefer to override moo's $ instead. However,
haven't been able to find a way to do it. I can't imagine there isn't a
way, but so far no luck.
Anyone in this lovely, lively, vigorous jquery group know a workaround?
(buttered up enough?)
Thanks,
Jack
</blockquote></div>
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
@GTG, great question, I second that.
@Jack, if you can explain what you are trying to do with mootools, maybe we can come up with an alternative.
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">
Ganeshji Marwaha</b> <<a href="mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com">ganeshread@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>I don't think there is a way to make mootools play well with other libraries when using the infamous "$". jQuery is probably the only library that understands this concern and has implemented appropriate precautions in its code base.
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>That said, to look at ur needs from a higher level, i think i will first need to understand what is that u r doing with mootools that can't be done in jquery. If we are able to easily achieve the same using jQuery, then you wont have to use mootools at all in the first place...
</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>-GTG
</div><div><span class="e" id="q_1148f0a18a2eedf3_1">
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:
</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">Right, I just don't want to touch any of the existing/relevant files....only wrap moo in something that won't conflict. Thanks for poking into it for me, though, much appreciated. Seems like a no-brainer to have in a library (and a reason to use jq over moo in general if it t'aint possible ;-)
<div><span>
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">I was just looking at some of my plugins and realized that, if your plugins are wrapped like below, doing the noflict should not be a headache.
<code>(function($){
// original content
})(jQuery);</code>
Even if you have to wrap your current code (custom code you written) in that, you should still be ok.
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Benjamin Sterling</b> <<a href="mailto:benjamin.sterling@kenzomedia.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> benjamin.sterling@kenzomedia.com
</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Sorry Jack, never ran into the issue. Maybe replacing all the $ in mootools' core, probably not the best approach, but I could not find an answer.
Sorry.
<div><span>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:
</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">Right, I know about the no-conflict mode. My issue is the opposite: I don't want to touch any existing js files to use jquery in no-conflict mode....and haven't had any luck via mootools pleas for a workaround at the moo level. Hoping someone here has dealt with it. I just have a little mootools thing I need to use so don't want to touch other stuff that's already working.
Thx.
<span>Jack</span>
<div><span>
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Check out <a href="http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/
</a>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:
</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I have a site that's chock-full of jquery stuff: numerous js files using
jquery, bunch of plugins, etc. I have a need to use mootools for
something that must coexist with the jquery stuff. I know that jquery's
$ can be changed to something else, but rather than mod any of my
existing js files, I'd prefer to override moo's $ instead. However,
haven't been able to find a way to do it. I can't imagine there isn't a
way, but so far no luck.
Anyone in this lovely, lively, vigorous jquery group know a workaround?
(buttered up enough?)
Thanks,
Jack
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@Jack, if you can explain what you are trying to do with mootools, maybe we can come up with an alternative.
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">
Ganeshji Marwaha</b> <<a href="mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com">ganeshread@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>I don't think there is a way to make mootools play well with other libraries when using the infamous "$". jQuery is probably the only library that understands this concern and has implemented appropriate precautions in its code base.
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>That said, to look at ur needs from a higher level, i think i will first need to understand what is that u r doing with mootools that can't be done in jquery. If we are able to easily achieve the same using jQuery, then you wont have to use mootools at all in the first place...
</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>-GTG
</div><div><span class="e" id="q_1148f0a18a2eedf3_1">
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:
</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">Right, I just don't want to touch any of the existing/relevant files....only wrap moo in something that won't conflict. Thanks for poking into it for me, though, much appreciated. Seems like a no-brainer to have in a library (and a reason to use jq over moo in general if it t'aint possible ;-)
<div><span>
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">I was just looking at some of my plugins and realized that, if your plugins are wrapped like below, doing the noflict should not be a headache.
<code>(function($){
// original content
})(jQuery);</code>
Even if you have to wrap your current code (custom code you written) in that, you should still be ok.
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Benjamin Sterling</b> <<a href="mailto:benjamin.sterling@kenzomedia.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> benjamin.sterling@kenzomedia.com
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Sorry Jack, never ran into the issue. Maybe replacing all the $ in mootools' core, probably not the best approach, but I could not find an answer.
Sorry.
<div><span>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:
</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">Right, I know about the no-conflict mode. My issue is the opposite: I don't want to touch any existing js files to use jquery in no-conflict mode....and haven't had any luck via mootools pleas for a workaround at the moo level. Hoping someone here has dealt with it. I just have a little mootools thing I need to use so don't want to touch other stuff that's already working.
Thx.
<span>Jack</span>
<div><span>
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Check out <a href="http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://michaelshadle.com/2007/07/03/jquerys-no-conflict-mode-yet-another-reason-why-its-the-best/
</a>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:
</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I have a site that's chock-full of jquery stuff: numerous js files using
jquery, bunch of plugins, etc. I have a need to use mootools for
something that must coexist with the jquery stuff. I know that jquery's
$ can be changed to something else, but rather than mod any of my
existing js files, I'd prefer to override moo's $ instead. However,
haven't been able to find a way to do it. I can't imagine there isn't a
way, but so far no luck.
Anyone in this lovely, lively, vigorous jquery group know a workaround?
(buttered up enough?)
Thanks,
Jack
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
I want to do this and have evaluated and tried a few plain-js and
jquery based solutions:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html">http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html</a>
required abilities:
1. select multiple files at once via browse dialog
2. list all selected files separately
3. remove any selected file before uploading and during upload (if not
started)
4. per-item progress bars (and ability for individual uploads to
complete before whole batch does)
5. clear completed list easily
Nice to haves:
6. restrict selections by file extension
7. file-size limit enforced on client side
Additionally: I'm looking for a solution that has most/all of this
already packaged (since this mootools uploader does and has therefore
set the bar) so that implementation time will be minimal.
FWIW, all of the jq-based plugins I've looked at so far did not meet
*all* requirements or came close, but had various browser-specific
issues (crashing browsers, not loading from local cache) that made us
give up on them.
- Jack
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:2215f22c0708221240v32a095f4u2154089775053b72@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">@GTG, great question, I second that.
@Jack, if you can explain what you are trying to do with mootools,
maybe we can come up with an alternative.
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b
class="gmail_sendername">
Ganeshji Marwaha</b> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com">ganeshread@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>I don't think there is a way to make mootools play well with
other libraries when using the infamous "$". jQuery is probably the
only library that understands this concern and has implemented
appropriate precautions in its code base. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>That said, to look at ur needs from a higher level, i think i
will first need to understand what is that u r doing with mootools that
can't be done in jquery. If we are able to easily achieve the same
using jQuery, then you wont have to use mootools at all in the first
place...
</div>
<div> </div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
</body>
</html>
<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
I want to do this and have evaluated and tried a few plain-js and
jquery based solutions:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html">http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html</a>
required abilities:
1. select multiple files at once via browse dialog
2. list all selected files separately
3. remove any selected file before uploading and during upload (if not
started)
4. per-item progress bars (and ability for individual uploads to
complete before whole batch does)
5. clear completed list easily
Nice to haves:
6. restrict selections by file extension
7. file-size limit enforced on client side
Additionally: I'm looking for a solution that has most/all of this
already packaged (since this mootools uploader does and has therefore
set the bar) so that implementation time will be minimal.
FWIW, all of the jq-based plugins I've looked at so far did not meet
*all* requirements or came close, but had various browser-specific
issues (crashing browsers, not loading from local cache) that made us
give up on them.
- Jack
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:2215f22c0708221240v32a095f4u2154089775053b72@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">@GTG, great question, I second that.
@Jack, if you can explain what you are trying to do with mootools,
maybe we can come up with an alternative.
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b
class="gmail_sendername">
Ganeshji Marwaha</b> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com">ganeshread@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>I don't think there is a way to make mootools play well with
other libraries when using the infamous "$". jQuery is probably the
only library that understands this concern and has implemented
appropriate precautions in its code base. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>That said, to look at ur needs from a higher level, i think i
will first need to understand what is that u r doing with mootools that
can't be done in jquery. If we are able to easily achieve the same
using jQuery, then you wont have to use mootools at all in the first
place...
</div>
<div> </div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
</body>
</html>
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
Wow, it is shocking the none of jQuery file uploaders have those ability. That may be something I need to work on. Very shocking.
I wish I knew how to get around the mootools issue, just never worked with it before.
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
I want to do this and have evaluated and tried a few plain-js and
jquery based solutions:
<a href="http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html</a>
required abilities:
1. select multiple files at once via browse dialog
2. list all selected files separately
3. remove any selected file before uploading and during upload (if not
started)
4. per-item progress bars (and ability for individual uploads to
complete before whole batch does)
5. clear completed list easily
Nice to haves:
6. restrict selections by file extension
7. file-size limit enforced on client side
Additionally: I'm looking for a solution that has most/all of this
already packaged (since this mootools uploader does and has therefore
set the bar) so that implementation time will be minimal.
FWIW, all of the jq-based plugins I've looked at so far did not meet
*all* requirements or came close, but had various browser-specific
issues (crashing browsers, not loading from local cache) that made us
give up on them.
<span class="sg">
- Jack</span><span class="q">
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">@GTG, great question, I second that.
@Jack, if you can explain what you are trying to do with mootools,
maybe we can come up with an alternative.
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">
Ganeshji Marwaha</b> <<a href="mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">ganeshread@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>I don't think there is a way to make mootools play well with
other libraries when using the infamous "$". jQuery is probably the
only library that understands this concern and has implemented
appropriate precautions in its code base. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>That said, to look at ur needs from a higher level, i think i
will first need to understand what is that u r doing with mootools that
can't be done in jquery. If we are able to easily achieve the same
using jQuery, then you wont have to use mootools at all in the first
place...
</div>
<div> </div>
</blockquote>
</div>
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I wish I knew how to get around the mootools issue, just never worked with it before.
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
I want to do this and have evaluated and tried a few plain-js and
jquery based solutions:
<a href="http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html</a>
required abilities:
1. select multiple files at once via browse dialog
2. list all selected files separately
3. remove any selected file before uploading and during upload (if not
started)
4. per-item progress bars (and ability for individual uploads to
complete before whole batch does)
5. clear completed list easily
Nice to haves:
6. restrict selections by file extension
7. file-size limit enforced on client side
Additionally: I'm looking for a solution that has most/all of this
already packaged (since this mootools uploader does and has therefore
set the bar) so that implementation time will be minimal.
FWIW, all of the jq-based plugins I've looked at so far did not meet
*all* requirements or came close, but had various browser-specific
issues (crashing browsers, not loading from local cache) that made us
give up on them.
<span class="sg">
- Jack</span><span class="q">
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">@GTG, great question, I second that.
@Jack, if you can explain what you are trying to do with mootools,
maybe we can come up with an alternative.
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">
Ganeshji Marwaha</b> <<a href="mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">ganeshread@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>I don't think there is a way to make mootools play well with
other libraries when using the infamous "$". jQuery is probably the
only library that understands this concern and has implemented
appropriate precautions in its code base. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>That said, to look at ur needs from a higher level, i think i
will first need to understand what is that u r doing with mootools that
can't be done in jquery. If we are able to easily achieve the same
using jQuery, then you wont have to use mootools at all in the first
place...
</div>
<div> </div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3132" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It is not that shocking to me -- these are some
difficult requirements that developers have always struggled with, as far as
Javascript solutions -- especially numbers 4 and 7. Flash seems to
handle multi-file uploads a little more easily.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If mootools has been able to overcome these
obstacles in pure JS that is very impressive.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Have at it Benjamin!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-- Josh</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">Wow,
it is shocking the none of jQuery file uploaders have those ability.
That may be something I need to work on. Very shocking.<BR><BR>I wish I
knew how to get around the mootools issue, just never worked with it before.
<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 8/22/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Jack
Killpatrick</B> <<A href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
<DIV text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">I want to do this and have evaluated
and tried a few plain-js and jquery based solutions:<BR><BR><A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html"
target=_blank>http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html</A><BR><BR>required
abilities:<BR><BR>1. select multiple files at once via browse dialog<BR>2.
list all selected files separately<BR>3. remove any selected file before
uploading and during upload (if not started)<BR>4. per-item progress bars
(and ability for individual uploads to complete before whole batch
does)<BR>5. clear completed list easily<BR><BR>Nice to haves:<BR><BR>6.
restrict selections by file extension<BR>7. file-size limit enforced on
client side<BR><BR>Additionally: I'm looking for a solution that has
most/all of this already packaged (since this mootools uploader does and has
therefore set the bar) so that implementation time will be
minimal.<BR><BR>FWIW, all of the jq-based plugins I've looked at so far did
not meet *all* requirements or came close, but had various browser-specific
issues (crashing browsers, not loading from local cache) that made us give
up on them.<BR><SPAN class=sg><BR>- Jack</SPAN><SPAN
class=q><BR><BR>Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">@GTG, great question, I second that.<BR><BR>@Jack,
if you can explain what you are trying to do with mootools, maybe we can
come up with an alternative.<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 8/22/07, <B
class=gmail_sendername>Ganeshji Marwaha</B> <<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com"
target=_blank>ganeshread@gmail.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
<DIV>I don't think there is a way to make mootools play well with other
libraries when using the infamous "$". jQuery is probably the only
library that understands this concern and has implemented appropriate
precautions in its code base. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>That said, to look at ur needs from a higher level, i think i will
first need to understand what is that u r doing with mootools that can't
be done in jquery. If we are able to easily achieve the same using
jQuery, then you wont have to use mootools at all in the first place...
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR
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<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3132" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It is not that shocking to me -- these are some
difficult requirements that developers have always struggled with, as far as
Javascript solutions -- especially numbers 4 and 7. Flash seems to
handle multi-file uploads a little more easily.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If mootools has been able to overcome these
obstacles in pure JS that is very impressive.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Have at it Benjamin!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-- Josh</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">Wow,
it is shocking the none of jQuery file uploaders have those ability.
That may be something I need to work on. Very shocking.<BR><BR>I wish I
knew how to get around the mootools issue, just never worked with it before.
<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 8/22/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Jack
Killpatrick</B> <<A href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
<DIV text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">I want to do this and have evaluated
and tried a few plain-js and jquery based solutions:<BR><BR><A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html"
target=_blank>http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html</A><BR><BR>required
abilities:<BR><BR>1. select multiple files at once via browse dialog<BR>2.
list all selected files separately<BR>3. remove any selected file before
uploading and during upload (if not started)<BR>4. per-item progress bars
(and ability for individual uploads to complete before whole batch
does)<BR>5. clear completed list easily<BR><BR>Nice to haves:<BR><BR>6.
restrict selections by file extension<BR>7. file-size limit enforced on
client side<BR><BR>Additionally: I'm looking for a solution that has
most/all of this already packaged (since this mootools uploader does and has
therefore set the bar) so that implementation time will be
minimal.<BR><BR>FWIW, all of the jq-based plugins I've looked at so far did
not meet *all* requirements or came close, but had various browser-specific
issues (crashing browsers, not loading from local cache) that made us give
up on them.<BR><SPAN class=sg><BR>- Jack</SPAN><SPAN
class=q><BR><BR>Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">@GTG, great question, I second that.<BR><BR>@Jack,
if you can explain what you are trying to do with mootools, maybe we can
come up with an alternative.<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 8/22/07, <B
class=gmail_sendername>Ganeshji Marwaha</B> <<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com"
target=_blank>ganeshread@gmail.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
<DIV>I don't think there is a way to make mootools play well with other
libraries when using the infamous "$". jQuery is probably the only
library that understands this concern and has implemented appropriate
precautions in its code base. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>That said, to look at ur needs from a higher level, i think i will
first need to understand what is that u r doing with mootools that can't
be done in jquery. If we are able to easily achieve the same using
jQuery, then you wont have to use mootools at all in the first place...
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR
clear=all><BR>-- <BR>Benjamin Sterling<BR><A
href="http://www.KenzoMedia.com">http://www.KenzoMedia.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.KenzoHosting.com">http://www.KenzoHosting.com</A>
</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
<div>Interesting... I should admit that, we don't have a plugin that does exactly that in jQuery. But there are quite a few upload related plugins that may partially solve your needs. </div>
<div>Sorry, couldn't be of much help here... But i am sure, someone somewhere (including Benjamin) is writing a plugin that exactly solves this need for jQuery.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>-GTG
</div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">I want to do this and have evaluated and tried a few plain-js and jquery based solutions:
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html" target="_blank">
http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html</a>
required abilities:
1. select multiple files at once via browse dialog
2. list all selected files separately
3. remove any selected file before uploading and during upload (if not started)
4. per-item progress bars (and ability for individual uploads to complete before whole batch does)
5. clear completed list easily
Nice to haves:
6. restrict selections by file extension
7. file-size limit enforced on client side
Additionally: I'm looking for a solution that has most/all of this already packaged (since this mootools uploader does and has therefore set the bar) so that implementation time will be minimal.
FWIW, all of the jq-based plugins I've looked at so far did not meet *all* requirements or came close, but had various browser-specific issues (crashing browsers, not loading from local cache) that made us give up on them.
<span class="sg">
- Jack</span><span class="q">
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">@GTG, great question, I second that.
@Jack, if you can explain what you are trying to do with mootools, maybe we can come up with an alternative.
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Ganeshji Marwaha</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com" target="_blank">ganeshread@gmail.com
</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
<div>I don't think there is a way to make mootools play well with other libraries when using the infamous "$". jQuery is probably the only library that understands this concern and has implemented appropriate precautions in its code base.
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>That said, to look at ur needs from a higher level, i think i will first need to understand what is that u r doing with mootools that can't be done in jquery. If we are able to easily achieve the same using jQuery, then you wont have to use mootools at all in the first place...
</div>
<div> </div></blockquote></div></blockquote>
</span></div></blockquote></div>
<div>Sorry, couldn't be of much help here... But i am sure, someone somewhere (including Benjamin) is writing a plugin that exactly solves this need for jQuery.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>-GTG
</div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">I want to do this and have evaluated and tried a few plain-js and jquery based solutions:
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html" target="_blank">
http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html</a>
required abilities:
1. select multiple files at once via browse dialog
2. list all selected files separately
3. remove any selected file before uploading and during upload (if not started)
4. per-item progress bars (and ability for individual uploads to complete before whole batch does)
5. clear completed list easily
Nice to haves:
6. restrict selections by file extension
7. file-size limit enforced on client side
Additionally: I'm looking for a solution that has most/all of this already packaged (since this mootools uploader does and has therefore set the bar) so that implementation time will be minimal.
FWIW, all of the jq-based plugins I've looked at so far did not meet *all* requirements or came close, but had various browser-specific issues (crashing browsers, not loading from local cache) that made us give up on them.
<span class="sg">
- Jack</span><span class="q">
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">@GTG, great question, I second that.
@Jack, if you can explain what you are trying to do with mootools, maybe we can come up with an alternative.
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Ganeshji Marwaha</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com" target="_blank">ganeshread@gmail.com
</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
<div>I don't think there is a way to make mootools play well with other libraries when using the infamous "$". jQuery is probably the only library that understands this concern and has implemented appropriate precautions in its code base.
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>That said, to look at ur needs from a higher level, i think i will first need to understand what is that u r doing with mootools that can't be done in jquery. If we are able to easily achieve the same using jQuery, then you wont have to use mootools at all in the first place...
</div>
<div> </div></blockquote></div></blockquote>
</span></div></blockquote></div>
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
Does this jQuery plugin not work?
http://uiupload.webunity.nl/
Rey...
Josh Nathanson wrote:
> It is not that shocking to me -- these are some difficult requirements
> that developers have always struggled with, as far as Javascript
> solutions -- especially numbers 4 and 7. Flash seems to handle
> multi-file uploads a little more easily.
>
> If mootools has been able to overcome these obstacles in pure JS that is
> very impressive.
>
> Have at it Benjamin!
>
> -- Josh
>
> Wow, it is shocking the none of jQuery file uploaders have those
> ability. That may be something I need to work on. Very shocking.
>
> I wish I knew how to get around the mootools issue, just never
> worked with it before.
>
> On 8/22/07, *Jack Killpatrick* <jack@ihwy.com
> <mailto:jack@ihwy.com>> wrote:
>
> I want to do this and have evaluated and tried a few plain-js
> and jquery based solutions:
>
> http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html
>
> required abilities:
>
> 1. select multiple files at once via browse dialog
> 2. list all selected files separately
> 3. remove any selected file before uploading and during upload
> (if not started)
> 4. per-item progress bars (and ability for individual uploads to
> complete before whole batch does)
> 5. clear completed list easily
>
> Nice to haves:
>
> 6. restrict selections by file extension
> 7. file-size limit enforced on client side
>
> Additionally: I'm looking for a solution that has most/all of
> this already packaged (since this mootools uploader does and has
> therefore set the bar) so that implementation time will be minimal.
>
> FWIW, all of the jq-based plugins I've looked at so far did not
> meet *all* requirements or came close, but had various
> browser-specific issues (crashing browsers, not loading from
> local cache) that made us give up on them.
>
> - Jack
>
> Benjamin Sterling wrote:
>> @GTG, great question, I second that.
>>
>> @Jack, if you can explain what you are trying to do with
>> mootools, maybe we can come up with an alternative.
>>
>> On 8/22/07, *Ganeshji Marwaha* <ganeshread@gmail.com
>> <mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com>>
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
Rey, that is sweet. I did not see that on the plug in page, nor in a google search, is that yours?
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Rey Bango</b> <<a href="mailto:rey@iambright.com">
rey@iambright.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Does this jQuery plugin not work?
<a href="http://uiupload.webunity.nl/">
http://uiupload.webunity.nl/</a>
Rey...
Josh Nathanson wrote:
> It is not that shocking to me -- these are some difficult requirements
> that developers have always struggled with, as far as Javascript
> solutions -- especially numbers 4 and 7. Flash seems to handle
> multi-file uploads a little more easily.
>
> If mootools has been able to overcome these obstacles in pure JS that is
> very impressive.
>
> Have at it Benjamin!
>
> -- Josh
>
> Wow, it is shocking the none of jQuery file uploaders have those
> ability. That may be something I need to work on. Very shocking.
>
> I wish I knew how to get around the mootools issue, just never
> worked with it before.
>
> On 8/22/07, *Jack Killpatrick* <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</a>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</a>>> wrote:
>
> I want to do this and have evaluated and tried a few plain-js
> and jquery based solutions:
>
> <a href="http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html">http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html</a>
>
> required abilities:
>
> 1. select multiple files at once via browse dialog
> 2. list all selected files separately
> 3. remove any selected file before uploading and during upload
> (if not started)
> 4. per-item progress bars (and ability for individual uploads to
> complete before whole batch does)
> 5. clear completed list easily
>
> Nice to haves:
>
> 6. restrict selections by file extension
> 7. file-size limit enforced on client side
>
> Additionally: I'm looking for a solution that has most/all of
> this already packaged (since this mootools uploader does and has
> therefore set the bar) so that implementation time will be minimal.
>
> FWIW, all of the jq-based plugins I've looked at so far did not
> meet *all* requirements or came close, but had various
> browser-specific issues (crashing browsers, not loading from
> local cache) that made us give up on them.
>
> - Jack
>
> Benjamin Sterling wrote:
>> @GTG, great question, I second that.
>>
>> @Jack, if you can explain what you are trying to do with
>> mootools, maybe we can come up with an alternative.
>>
>> On 8/22/07, *Ganeshji Marwaha* <<a href="mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com">ganeshread@gmail.com</a>
>> <mailto:
<a href="mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com">ganeshread@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:
>>
>> I don't think there is a way to make mootools play well
>> with other libraries when using the infamous "$". jQuery
>> is probably the only library that understands this concern
>> and has implemented appropriate precautions in its code base.
>>
>> That said, to look at ur needs from a higher level, i
>> think i will first need to understand what is that u r
>> doing with mootools that can't be done in jquery. If we
>> are able to easily achieve the same using jQuery, then you
>> wont have to use mootools at all in the first place...
>>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Benjamin Sterling
> <a href="http://www.KenzoMedia.com">http://www.KenzoMedia.com
</a>
> <a href="http://www.KenzoHosting.com">http://www.KenzoHosting.com</a>
</blockquote></div>
<br clear="all">
--
Benjamin Sterling
<a href="http://www.KenzoMedia.com">http://www.KenzoMedia.com
</a>
<a href="http://www.KenzoHosting.com">http://www.KenzoHosting.com</a>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Rey Bango</b> <<a href="mailto:rey@iambright.com">
rey@iambright.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Does this jQuery plugin not work?
<a href="http://uiupload.webunity.nl/">
http://uiupload.webunity.nl/</a>
Rey...
Josh Nathanson wrote:
> It is not that shocking to me -- these are some difficult requirements
> that developers have always struggled with, as far as Javascript
> solutions -- especially numbers 4 and 7. Flash seems to handle
> multi-file uploads a little more easily.
>
> If mootools has been able to overcome these obstacles in pure JS that is
> very impressive.
>
> Have at it Benjamin!
>
> -- Josh
>
> Wow, it is shocking the none of jQuery file uploaders have those
> ability. That may be something I need to work on. Very shocking.
>
> I wish I knew how to get around the mootools issue, just never
> worked with it before.
>
> On 8/22/07, *Jack Killpatrick* <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</a>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</a>>> wrote:
>
> I want to do this and have evaluated and tried a few plain-js
> and jquery based solutions:
>
> <a href="http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html">http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html</a>
>
> required abilities:
>
> 1. select multiple files at once via browse dialog
> 2. list all selected files separately
> 3. remove any selected file before uploading and during upload
> (if not started)
> 4. per-item progress bars (and ability for individual uploads to
> complete before whole batch does)
> 5. clear completed list easily
>
> Nice to haves:
>
> 6. restrict selections by file extension
> 7. file-size limit enforced on client side
>
> Additionally: I'm looking for a solution that has most/all of
> this already packaged (since this mootools uploader does and has
> therefore set the bar) so that implementation time will be minimal.
>
> FWIW, all of the jq-based plugins I've looked at so far did not
> meet *all* requirements or came close, but had various
> browser-specific issues (crashing browsers, not loading from
> local cache) that made us give up on them.
>
> - Jack
>
> Benjamin Sterling wrote:
>> @GTG, great question, I second that.
>>
>> @Jack, if you can explain what you are trying to do with
>> mootools, maybe we can come up with an alternative.
>>
>> On 8/22/07, *Ganeshji Marwaha* <<a href="mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com">ganeshread@gmail.com</a>
>> <mailto:
<a href="mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com">ganeshread@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:
>>
>> I don't think there is a way to make mootools play well
>> with other libraries when using the infamous "$". jQuery
>> is probably the only library that understands this concern
>> and has implemented appropriate precautions in its code base.
>>
>> That said, to look at ur needs from a higher level, i
>> think i will first need to understand what is that u r
>> doing with mootools that can't be done in jquery. If we
>> are able to easily achieve the same using jQuery, then you
>> wont have to use mootools at all in the first place...
>>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Benjamin Sterling
> <a href="http://www.KenzoMedia.com">http://www.KenzoMedia.com
</a>
> <a href="http://www.KenzoHosting.com">http://www.KenzoHosting.com</a>
</blockquote></div>
<br clear="all">
--
Benjamin Sterling
<a href="http://www.KenzoMedia.com">http://www.KenzoMedia.com
</a>
<a href="http://www.KenzoHosting.com">http://www.KenzoHosting.com</a>
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
That's close (no visible way to clear the full list of uploaded items
for a re-select), though I haven't tried that page in various browsers,
nor tried to see what it takes to use it. Are there docs, what's the
release status, how well has it been tested, in which browsers, etc?
Also, I never came across this one in my googling-about.
In general, it looks like it's a work in progress, whereas the moo
solution is documented, tested, etc.
?
Is Flash involved? I didn't see any sign of it. If not, how's that
multi-select dialog work?
- Jack
Rey Bango wrote:
>
> Does this jQuery plugin not work?
>
> http://uiupload.webunity.nl/
>
> Rey...
>
> Josh Nathanson wrote:
>> It is not that shocking to me -- these are some difficult
>> requirements that developers have always struggled with, as far as
>> Javascript solutions -- especially numbers 4 and 7. Flash seems to
>> handle multi-file uploads a little more easily.
>>
>> If mootools has been able to overcome these obstacles in pure JS that
>> is very impressive.
>>
>> Have at it Benjamin!
>>
>> -- Josh
>>
>> Wow, it is shocking the none of jQuery file uploaders have those
>> ability. That may be something I need to work on. Very shocking.
>>
>> I wish I knew how to get around the mootools issue, just never
>> worked with it before.
>>
>> On 8/22/07, *Jack Killpatrick* <jack@ihwy.com
>> <mailto:jack@ihwy.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I want to do this and have evaluated and tried a few plain-js
>> and jquery based solutions:
>>
>> http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html
>>
>> required abilities:
>>
>> 1. select multiple files at once via browse dialog
>> 2. list all selected files separately
>> 3. remove any selected file before uploading and during upload
>> (if not started)
>> 4. per-item progress bars (and ability for individual uploads to
>> complete before whole batch does)
>> 5. clear completed list easily
>>
>> Nice to haves:
>>
>> 6. restrict selections by file extension
>> 7. file-size limit enforced on client side
>>
>> Additionally: I'm looking for a solution that has most/all of
>> this already packaged (since this mootools uploader does and has
>> therefore set the bar) so that implementation time will be
>> minimal.
>>
>> FWIW, all of the jq-based plugins I've looked at so far did not
>> meet *all* requirements or came close, but had various
>> browser-specific issues (crashing browsers, not loading from
>> local cache) that made us give up on them.
>>
>> - Jack
>>
>> Benjamin Sterling wrote:
>>> @GTG, great question, I second that.
>>>
>>> @Jack, if you can explain what you are trying to do with
>>> mootools, maybe we can come up with an alternative.
>>>
>>> On 8/22/07, *Ganeshji Marwaha* <ganeshread@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com>>
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
Yeah, there is a hidden div the has the <embed> tag. Don't think you can achieve that type of functionality with out flash.
"googling-about", I like that :)
<div><span class="gmail_quote">
On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
That's close (no visible way to clear the full list of uploaded items
for a re-select), though I haven't tried that page in various browsers,
nor tried to see what it takes to use it. Are there docs, what's the
release status, how well has it been tested, in which browsers, etc?
Also, I never came across this one in my googling-about.
In general, it looks like it's a work in progress, whereas the moo
solution is documented, tested, etc.
?
Is Flash involved? I didn't see any sign of it. If not, how's that
multi-select dialog work?
- Jack
Rey Bango wrote:
>
> Does this jQuery plugin not work?
>
>
<a href="http://uiupload.webunity.nl/">http://uiupload.webunity.nl/</a>
>
> Rey...
>
> Josh Nathanson wrote:
>> It is not that shocking to me -- these are some difficult
>> requirements that developers have always struggled with, as far as
>> Javascript solutions -- especially numbers 4 and 7. Flash seems to
>> handle multi-file uploads a little more easily.
>>
>> If mootools has been able to overcome these obstacles in pure JS that
>> is very impressive.
>>
>> Have at it Benjamin!
>>
>> -- Josh
>>
>> Wow, it is shocking the none of jQuery file uploaders have those
>> ability. That may be something I need to work on. Very shocking.
>>
>> I wish I knew how to get around the mootools issue, just never
>> worked with it before.
>>
>> On 8/22/07, *Jack Killpatrick* <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">
jack@ihwy.com</a>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</a>>> wrote:
>>
>> I want to do this and have evaluated and tried a few plain-js
>> and jquery based solutions:
>>
>> <a href="http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html">http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html</a>
>>
>> required abilities:
>>
>> 1. select multiple files at once via browse dialog
>> 2. list all selected files separately
>> 3. remove any selected file before uploading and during upload
>> (if not started)
>> 4. per-item progress bars (and ability for individual uploads to
>> complete before whole batch does)
>> 5. clear completed list easily
>>
>> Nice to haves:
>>
>> 6. restrict selections by file extension
>> 7. file-size limit enforced on client side
>>
>> Additionally: I'm looking for a solution that has most/all of
>> this already packaged (since this mootools uploader does and has
>> therefore set the bar) so that implementation time will be
>> minimal.
>>
>> FWIW, all of the jq-based plugins I've looked at so far did not
>> meet *all* requirements or came close, but had various
>> browser-specific issues (crashing browsers, not loading from
>> local cache) that made us give up on them.
>>
>> - Jack
>>
>> Benjamin Sterling wrote:
>>> @GTG, great question, I second that.
>>>
>>> @Jack, if you can explain what you are trying to do with
>>> mootools, maybe we can come up with an alternative.
>>>
>>> On 8/22/07, *Ganeshji Marwaha* <<a href="mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com">ganeshread@gmail.com</a>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com">ganeshread@gmail.com
</a>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't think there is a way to make mootools play well
>>> with other libraries when using the infamous "$". jQuery
>>> is probably the only library that understands this concern
>>> and has implemented appropriate precautions in its code
>>> base.
>>> That said, to look at ur needs from a
>>> higher level, i
>>> think i will first need to understand what is that u r
>>> doing with mootools that can't be done in jquery. If we
>>> are able to easily achieve the same using jQuery, then you
>>> wont have to use mootools at all in the first place...
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Benjamin Sterling
>> <a href="http://www.KenzoMedia.com">
http://www.KenzoMedia.com</a>
>> <a href="http://www.KenzoHosting.com">http://www.KenzoHosting.com</a>
>
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"googling-about", I like that :)
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On 8/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jack Killpatrick</b> <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
That's close (no visible way to clear the full list of uploaded items
for a re-select), though I haven't tried that page in various browsers,
nor tried to see what it takes to use it. Are there docs, what's the
release status, how well has it been tested, in which browsers, etc?
Also, I never came across this one in my googling-about.
In general, it looks like it's a work in progress, whereas the moo
solution is documented, tested, etc.
?
Is Flash involved? I didn't see any sign of it. If not, how's that
multi-select dialog work?
- Jack
Rey Bango wrote:
>
> Does this jQuery plugin not work?
>
>
<a href="http://uiupload.webunity.nl/">http://uiupload.webunity.nl/</a>
>
> Rey...
>
> Josh Nathanson wrote:
>> It is not that shocking to me -- these are some difficult
>> requirements that developers have always struggled with, as far as
>> Javascript solutions -- especially numbers 4 and 7. Flash seems to
>> handle multi-file uploads a little more easily.
>>
>> If mootools has been able to overcome these obstacles in pure JS that
>> is very impressive.
>>
>> Have at it Benjamin!
>>
>> -- Josh
>>
>> Wow, it is shocking the none of jQuery file uploaders have those
>> ability. That may be something I need to work on. Very shocking.
>>
>> I wish I knew how to get around the mootools issue, just never
>> worked with it before.
>>
>> On 8/22/07, *Jack Killpatrick* <<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">
jack@ihwy.com</a>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jack@ihwy.com">jack@ihwy.com</a>>> wrote:
>>
>> I want to do this and have evaluated and tried a few plain-js
>> and jquery based solutions:
>>
>> <a href="http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html">http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html</a>
>>
>> required abilities:
>>
>> 1. select multiple files at once via browse dialog
>> 2. list all selected files separately
>> 3. remove any selected file before uploading and during upload
>> (if not started)
>> 4. per-item progress bars (and ability for individual uploads to
>> complete before whole batch does)
>> 5. clear completed list easily
>>
>> Nice to haves:
>>
>> 6. restrict selections by file extension
>> 7. file-size limit enforced on client side
>>
>> Additionally: I'm looking for a solution that has most/all of
>> this already packaged (since this mootools uploader does and has
>> therefore set the bar) so that implementation time will be
>> minimal.
>>
>> FWIW, all of the jq-based plugins I've looked at so far did not
>> meet *all* requirements or came close, but had various
>> browser-specific issues (crashing browsers, not loading from
>> local cache) that made us give up on them.
>>
>> - Jack
>>
>> Benjamin Sterling wrote:
>>> @GTG, great question, I second that.
>>>
>>> @Jack, if you can explain what you are trying to do with
>>> mootools, maybe we can come up with an alternative.
>>>
>>> On 8/22/07, *Ganeshji Marwaha* <<a href="mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com">ganeshread@gmail.com</a>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com">ganeshread@gmail.com
</a>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't think there is a way to make mootools play well
>>> with other libraries when using the infamous "$". jQuery
>>> is probably the only library that understands this concern
>>> and has implemented appropriate precautions in its code
>>> base.
>>> That said, to look at ur needs from a
>>> higher level, i
>>> think i will first need to understand what is that u r
>>> doing with mootools that can't be done in jquery. If we
>>> are able to easily achieve the same using jQuery, then you
>>> wont have to use mootools at all in the first place...
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Benjamin Sterling
>> <a href="http://www.KenzoMedia.com">
http://www.KenzoMedia.com</a>
>> <a href="http://www.KenzoHosting.com">http://www.KenzoHosting.com</a>
>
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
Answered my own question about whether Flash is involved, FWIW:
* uiUpload: unobtrusive file uploads using Flash and jQuery.
* Largely based on SWFUpload <http://profandesign.se/swfupload/>
BTW, Flash is fine for my use, as long as the bugs are worked out and it a) doesn't
crash any browsers (FF 2 and IE 6/7 are my targets) with latest rev
of Flash and b) doesn't have any funky caching issues (like not showing
up on the page).
- Jack
Jack Killpatrick wrote:
>
> That's close (no visible way to clear the full list of uploaded items
> for a re-select), though I haven't tried that page in various
> browsers, nor tried to see what it takes to use it. Are there docs,
> what's the release status, how well has it been tested, in which
> browsers, etc? Also, I never came across this one in my googling-about.
>
> In general, it looks like it's a work in progress, whereas the moo
> solution is documented, tested, etc.
>
> ?
>
> Is Flash involved? I didn't see any sign of it. If not, how's that
> multi-select dialog work?
>
> - Jack
>
> Rey Bango wrote:
>>
>> Does this jQuery plugin not work?
>>
>> http://uiupload.webunity.nl/
>>
>> Rey...
>>
>> Josh Nathanson wrote:
>>> It is not that shocking to me -- these are some difficult
>>> requirements that developers have always struggled with, as far as
>>> Javascript solutions -- especially numbers 4 and 7. Flash seems to
>>> handle multi-file uploads a little more easily.
>>>
>>> If mootools has been able to overcome these obstacles in pure JS
>>> that is very impressive.
>>>
>>> Have at it Benjamin!
>>>
>>> -- Josh
>>>
>>> Wow, it is shocking the none of jQuery file uploaders have those
>>> ability. That may be something I need to work on. Very shocking.
>>>
>>> I wish I knew how to get around the mootools issue, just never
>>> worked with it before.
>>>
>>> On 8/22/07, *Jack Killpatrick* <jack@ihwy.com
>>> <mailto:jack@ihwy.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I want to do this and have evaluated and tried a few plain-js
>>> and jquery based solutions:
>>>
>>> http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html
>>>
>>> required abilities:
>>>
>>> 1. select multiple files at once via browse dialog
>>> 2. list all selected files separately
>>> 3. remove any selected file before uploading and during upload
>>> (if not started)
>>> 4. per-item progress bars (and ability for individual
>>> uploads to
>>> complete before whole batch does)
>>> 5. clear completed list easily
>>>
>>> Nice to haves:
>>>
>>> 6. restrict selections by file extension
>>> 7. file-size limit enforced on client side
>>>
>>> Additionally: I'm looking for a solution that has most/all of
>>> this already packaged (since this mootools uploader does and
>>> has
>>> therefore set the bar) so that implementation time will be
>>> minimal.
>>>
>>> FWIW, all of the jq-based plugins I've looked at so far did not
>>> meet *all* requirements or came close, but had various
>>> browser-specific issues (crashing browsers, not loading from
>>> local cache) that made us give up on them.
>>>
>>> - Jack
>>>
>>> Benjamin Sterling wrote:
>>>> @GTG, great question, I second that.
>>>>
>>>> @Jack, if you can explain what you are trying to do with
>>>> mootools, maybe we can come up with an alternative.
>>>>
>>>> On 8/22/07, *Ganeshji Marwaha* <ganeshread@gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com>>
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
Nope. This is part of the upcoming jQuery UI effort. :)
Rey...
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
> Rey, that is sweet. I did not see that on the plug in page, nor in a
> google search, is that yours?
>
> On 8/22/07, *Rey Bango* < rey@iambright.com <mailto:rey@iambright.com>>
> wrote:
>
>
> Does this jQuery plugin not work?
>
> http://uiupload.webunity.nl/
>
> Rey...
>
> Josh Nathanson wrote:
> > It is not that shocking to me -- these are some difficult
> requirements
> > that developers have always struggled with, as far as Javascript
> > solutions -- especially numbers 4 and 7. Flash seems to handle
> > multi-file uploads a little more easily.
> >
> > If mootools has been able to overcome these obstacles in pure JS
> that is
> > very impressive.
> >
> > Have at it Benjamin!
> >
> > -- Josh
> >
> > Wow, it is shocking the none of jQuery file uploaders have those
> > ability. That may be something I need to work on. Very
> shocking.
> >
> > I wish I knew how to get around the mootools issue, just never
> > worked with it before.
> >
> > On 8/22/07, *Jack Killpatrick* <jack@ihwy.com
> <mailto:jack@ihwy.com>
> > <mailto:jack@ihwy.com <mailto:jack@ihwy.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > I want to do this and have evaluated and tried a few plain-js
> > and jquery based solutions:
> >
> > http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html
> >
> > required abilities:
> >
> > 1. select multiple files at once via browse dialog
> > 2. list all selected files separately
> > 3. remove any selected file before uploading and during
> upload
> > (if not started)
> > 4. per-item progress bars (and ability for individual
> uploads to
> > complete before whole batch does)
> > 5. clear completed list easily
> >
> > Nice to haves:
> >
> > 6. restrict selections by file extension
> > 7. file-size limit enforced on client side
> >
> > Additionally: I'm looking for a solution that has most/all of
> > this already packaged (since this mootools uploader does
> and has
> > therefore set the bar) so that implementation time will
> be minimal.
> >
> > FWIW, all of the jq-based plugins I've looked at so far
> did not
> > meet *all* requirements or came close, but had various
> > browser-specific issues (crashing browsers, not loading from
> > local cache) that made us give up on them.
> >
> > - Jack
> >
> > Benjamin Sterling wrote:
> >> @GTG, great question, I second that.
> >>
> >> @Jack, if you can explain what you are trying to do with
> >> mootools, maybe we can come up with an alternative.
> >>
> >> On 8/22/07, *Ganeshji Marwaha* <ganeshread@gmail.com
> <mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com>
> >> <mailto: ganeshread@gmail.com
> <mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com>>>
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
Jack, I think your best bet is to head on over to the jQuery UI mailing
list and discuss this with Gilles. He's the author of it and is working
to have a strong version ready for jQuery UI.
http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-ui
If you need something immediately and this doesn't work for you,
unfortunately I don't have an immediate solution for you.
Rey..
Jack Killpatrick wrote:
>
> Answered my own question about whether Flash is involved, FWIW:
>
> * uiUpload: unobtrusive file uploads using Flash and jQuery.
> * Largely based on SWFUpload <http://profandesign.se/swfupload/>
>
> BTW, Flash is fine for my use, as long as the bugs are worked out and it
> a) doesn't crash any browsers (FF 2 and IE 6/7 are my targets) with
> latest rev
> of Flash and b) doesn't have any funky caching issues (like not showing
> up on the page).
>
> - Jack
>
> Jack Killpatrick wrote:
>>
>> That's close (no visible way to clear the full list of uploaded items
>> for a re-select), though I haven't tried that page in various
>> browsers, nor tried to see what it takes to use it. Are there docs,
>> what's the release status, how well has it been tested, in which
>> browsers, etc? Also, I never came across this one in my googling-about.
>>
>> In general, it looks like it's a work in progress, whereas the moo
>> solution is documented, tested, etc.
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Is Flash involved? I didn't see any sign of it. If not, how's that
>> multi-select dialog work?
>>
>> - Jack
>>
>> Rey Bango wrote:
>>>
>>> Does this jQuery plugin not work?
>>>
>>> http://uiupload.webunity.nl/
>>>
>>> Rey...
>>>
>>> Josh Nathanson wrote:
>>>> It is not that shocking to me -- these are some difficult
>>>> requirements that developers have always struggled with, as far as
>>>> Javascript solutions -- especially numbers 4 and 7. Flash seems to
>>>> handle multi-file uploads a little more easily.
>>>>
>>>> If mootools has been able to overcome these obstacles in pure JS
>>>> that is very impressive.
>>>>
>>>> Have at it Benjamin!
>>>>
>>>> -- Josh
>>>>
>>>> Wow, it is shocking the none of jQuery file uploaders have those
>>>> ability. That may be something I need to work on. Very shocking.
>>>>
>>>> I wish I knew how to get around the mootools issue, just never
>>>> worked with it before.
>>>>
>>>> On 8/22/07, *Jack Killpatrick* <jack@ihwy.com
>>>> <mailto:jack@ihwy.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I want to do this and have evaluated and tried a few plain-js
>>>> and jquery based solutions:
>>>>
>>>> http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html
>>>>
>>>> required abilities:
>>>>
>>>> 1. select multiple files at once via browse dialog
>>>> 2. list all selected files separately
>>>> 3. remove any selected file before uploading and during upload
>>>> (if not started)
>>>> 4. per-item progress bars (and ability for individual
>>>> uploads to
>>>> complete before whole batch does)
>>>> 5. clear completed list easily
>>>>
>>>> Nice to haves:
>>>>
>>>> 6. restrict selections by file extension
>>>> 7. file-size limit enforced on client side
>>>>
>>>> Additionally: I'm looking for a solution that has most/all of
>>>> this already packaged (since this mootools uploader does and
>>>> has
>>>> therefore set the bar) so that implementation time will be
>>>> minimal.
>>>>
>>>> FWIW, all of the jq-based plugins I've looked at so far did not
>>>> meet *all* requirements or came close, but had various
>>>> browser-specific issues (crashing browsers, not loading from
>>>> local cache) that made us give up on them.
>>>>
>>>> - Jack
>>>>
>>>> Benjamin Sterling wrote:
>>>>> @GTG, great question, I second that.
>>>>>
>>>>> @Jack, if you can explain what you are trying to do with
>>>>> mootools, maybe we can come up with an alternative.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/22/07, *Ganeshji Marwaha* <ganeshread@gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com>>
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Re: [jQuery] [Plugin] jQuery Babelfish Plugin
15 years ago
Thanks Rey, I'll do that, much appreciated.
- Jack
Rey Bango wrote:
>
> Jack, I think your best bet is to head on over to the jQuery UI
> mailing list and discuss this with Gilles. He's the author of it and
> is working to have a strong version ready for jQuery UI.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-ui
>
> If you need something immediately and this doesn't work for you,
> unfortunately I don't have an immediate solution for you.
>
> Rey..
>
> Jack Killpatrick wrote:
>>
>> Answered my own question about whether Flash is involved, FWIW:
>>
>> * uiUpload: unobtrusive file uploads using Flash and jQuery.
>> * Largely based on SWFUpload <http://profandesign.se/swfupload/>
>>
>> BTW, Flash is fine for my use, as long as the bugs are worked out and
>> it a) doesn't crash any browsers (FF 2 and IE 6/7 are my targets)
>> with latest rev
>> of Flash and b) doesn't have any funky caching issues (like not showing
>> up on the page).
>>
>> - Jack
>>
>> Jack Killpatrick wrote:
>>>
>>> That's close (no visible way to clear the full list of uploaded
>>> items for a re-select), though I haven't tried that page in various
>>> browsers, nor tried to see what it takes to use it. Are there docs,
>>> what's the release status, how well has it been tested, in which
>>> browsers, etc? Also, I never came across this one in my googling-about.
>>>
>>> In general, it looks like it's a work in progress, whereas the moo
>>> solution is documented, tested, etc.
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Is Flash involved? I didn't see any sign of it. If not, how's that
>>> multi-select dialog work?
>>>
>>> - Jack
>>>
>>> Rey Bango wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Does this jQuery plugin not work?
>>>>
>>>> http://uiupload.webunity.nl/
>>>>
>>>> Rey...
>>>>
>>>> Josh Nathanson wrote:
>>>>> It is not that shocking to me -- these are some difficult
>>>>> requirements that developers have always struggled with, as far as
>>>>> Javascript solutions -- especially numbers 4 and 7. Flash seems
>>>>> to handle multi-file uploads a little more easily.
>>>>>
>>>>> If mootools has been able to overcome these obstacles in pure JS
>>>>> that is very impressive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have at it Benjamin!
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Josh
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow, it is shocking the none of jQuery file uploaders have those
>>>>> ability. That may be something I need to work on. Very
>>>>> shocking.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish I knew how to get around the mootools issue, just never
>>>>> worked with it before.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/22/07, *Jack Killpatrick* <jack@ihwy.com
>>>>> <mailto:jack@ihwy.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to do this and have evaluated and tried a few plain-js
>>>>> and jquery based solutions:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://digitarald.de/playground/uplooad.html
>>>>>
>>>>> required abilities:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. select multiple files at once via browse dialog
>>>>> 2. list all selected files separately
>>>>> 3. remove any selected file before uploading and during
>>>>> upload
>>>>> (if not started)
>>>>> 4. per-item progress bars (and ability for individual
>>>>> uploads to
>>>>> complete before whole batch does)
>>>>> 5. clear completed list easily
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice to haves:
>>>>>
>>>>> 6. restrict selections by file extension
>>>>> 7. file-size limit enforced on client side
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally: I'm looking for a solution that has most/all of
>>>>> this already packaged (since this mootools uploader does
>>>>> and has
>>>>> therefore set the bar) so that implementation time will be
>>>>> minimal.
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW, all of the jq-based plugins I've looked at so far
>>>>> did not
>>>>> meet *all* requirements or came close, but had various
>>>>> browser-specific issues (crashing browsers, not loading from
>>>>> local cache) that made us give up on them.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Jack
>>>>>
>>>>> Benjamin Sterling wrote:
>>>>>> @GTG, great question, I second that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @Jack, if you can explain what you are trying to do with
>>>>>> mootools, maybe we can come up with an alternative.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/22/07, *Ganeshji Marwaha* <ganeshread@gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:ganeshread@gmail.com>>
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